Group: GroupBusters


▶️ Stage 1: Groups administrated by Guest accounts


Sami Serola (inactive)
20 Apr 2021 - 17 comments - 229 visits- Permalink   |   Translate title into English

Concerns groups where are only Guest accounts as group administrators.

1) Project group members seek groups administrated by Guest accounts.
Group members can suggest cases here
Cases added then as new discussion topics.

2) Laura and Sami first reserves the cases with comment r-name on the group discussion. Marks the topic with ✅. Then reserves the cases on the work sheet with r-name for all groups not dealt with yet, and found as administrated by the case name as an administrator.


3) r-name decides, which groups can be deleted, and indicate them with d-name. Groups that require further actions, are indicated with p-name. If more time to assess the group needed, then use k-name.

4) CTO makes p-name as a group administrator on all groups indicated with p-name [[[and removes the case Guest account from those groups.]]]-edit: not at this time.

5) Laura and Sami checks:
- p-name changed to k-name on sheet
- Posts README contribution and waits 1-2 weeks.
- Sends group mail to members to ask members to reply on README.
- [sample] promotes new admins and indicate the group with keep on the work sheet, or request group to become deleted with d-name.

6) If no admin found, and groups still worth to keep, then one of us have to continue as a group admin.

7) When the Guest member case no longer has any groups to administrate, the case can be closed and mark with ❌.

The topic of this discussion has been edited by raingirl 3 years ago.

17 comments - The latest ones
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
Open for discussion and suggestions.
3 years ago.
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
How I assess if the group is worth to keep, or should be deleted:

1) Group is indeed administrated by the case name only. If there are co-admins with Club account, then mark with k-name for the possible Stage 2. If other co-admins with Guest account, check when they have posted for the last time.
Example: www.ipernity.com/group/composingtheabstract

2) Open administrators homepage and evaluate the activity. When is the last post? Any other evidence for example on Guestbook?

3) See the latest contributions by group members. Sometimes people may suggest groups other than their own, only based on the topic. So, there can be contributions by non members. Not easy to find out what exactly are contributions by members. But when trying to find out, it also gives a good overview on group activity.

4) Have an overall look on members view: www.ipernity.com/group/composingtheabstract/network/4
If only few members really contribute, and not for a long time, then considered deletion.

5) Search for thematical duplicates.
www.ipernity.com/search/group?w=0&q=abstract
3 years ago.
 raingirl
raingirl club
Beyond this assesment, I believe we've talked about keeping interesting unused groups (for example a good collection of over 20 photos of a topic that isn't likely represented anywhere else), but adding - closed - or something like that (I can't remember what we came up with) to indicate that it is for viewing only.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to raingirl club
That is a possibility. Then here's a group icon to use:
www.ipernity.com/doc/serola/50662808
And close contributions on group settings.
3 years ago.
 raingirl
raingirl club
Are we going to suggest to new admins to update the names and descriptions into at least 3 languages? I don't think we should insist, but it could be a good opportunity to remind them that it's a good idea.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to raingirl club
Good idea. Let's do that on groups where we find new admins.
3 years ago.
 ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
Ich habe mal in die Gruppen geschaut, in denen ich Mitglied bin, welche davon ausschliesslich von einem einzigen Gäste - Administrator verwaltet werden, und war erstaunt - es sind eine Menge.
Ich bin bei 228 Gruppen einfaches Mitglied. Das hier sind die Gruppen, die lediglich von einem Gastnutzer administriert werden:
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✅ Gina P. www.ipernity.com/user/gina/group
New case www.ipernity.com/group/2654918/discuss/196324

✅ Martin / smitty www.ipernity.com/user/smitty/group
New case www.ipernity.com/group/2654918/discuss/196326

✅ Explorerhh www.ipernity.com/user/explorerhh/group
New case www.ipernity.com/group/2654918/discuss/196328

✅ josie soho® www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196372

✅ D i r k www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196370

✅ Ford Prefect www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196318

✅ cloud_nine www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196374

✅ ojisanjake www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196392

✅ Lars Sözüer www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196394

✅ guenterhb www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196396

✅ JAMagoo www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196398

www.ipernity.com/group/fruits by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu
www.ipernity.com/group/fall by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu
www.ipernity.com/group/spring by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu
www.ipernity.com/group/summer by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu
www.ipernity.com/group/winter by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu
www.ipernity.com/group/people by www.ipernity.com/home/tuvalu

✅ Ian A. Mccord www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196400

www.ipernity.com/group/78808 by www.ipernity.com/home/ester
www.ipernity.com/group/libros by www.ipernity.com/home/ester

✅ Isabel www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196402

✅ soh www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196404
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
Even if you were not able to list them all here, it already helps. I will look them through, and add them onto cases as separate discussion topics.

What I have already listed, are picked from the shared Google Excel sheet. Like this:
www.ipernity.com/doc/serola/50709916

But since there seem to many Guest accounts, which has only one or few groups, we may have to open one thread for those.
3 years ago.
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
Yes, I was really a bit shocked myself, it's about 80% of my more than 200 groups that are only administered by a single guest account. Maybe that's also because I joined many of these groups in the early days of the groups, but the sheer number surprised me, I wouldn't have expected that.

But the impression that there are only a few users who administer these groups was deceptive, I just moved them to the top of the list so that it is easier to create a separate thread with them. The vast majority of groups are administered by very different guest accounts, that's what I wanted to show (but couldn't because of the character limit). It seems as if every user really did open groups, which then ended up like this as a result of the account status change.

In the next few days I will make another thread with my groups that are obviously no longer being used (for some of them I can judge that very well, for example because my document is the most recent in the group and I know roughly when I posted it there). And groups that contain very few postings (most of them by me) and also have very few users - connected with an administrator who only uses a guest account.
In other words, groups that can basically be deleted with an "accelerated procedure" because they are obviously no longer used.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
I first pick the cases where those Guest accounts have multiple groups to admin, and start new topics for them. I hope you don't mind me editing your comment indicate the cases where new topic opened.

See the first three marked with ✅. That is what I meant. At lest those three have even more neglected groups, and therefore I opened new cases/topics.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
Arne www.ipernity.com/user/tuvalu/group
and
Ester www.ipernity.com/user/ester/group
Have became Guests and inactive less than 3 years ago. So, maybe better to wait.
3 years ago.
 ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
Huh, what is this?!? Before I edited this post it was displayed complete, after editing it is cutted down?!? Come on, it takes me 2 hours to go through all of my groups and have a look at administrators and their club status. ;-(
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Bergfex club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
The comment fields are limited to a certain size.
That is why I had to subdivide the amendments to the statutes when I published them.
When there were changes afterwards, I also had parts cut off.
That was a nasty experience.
Fortunately, I was able to reconstruct it.

The limit is somewhere below 10,000 characters.

Above, you have used 9,935 (blanks included)
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club has replied to Bergfex club
Yes, I am aware of the character limit, which is why I had copied the text before sending it. It still fit into one post.
But when I edited it later, I had something else in my clipboard in the meantime - and then it suddenly didn't fit in anymore...
3 years ago.
 ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
www.ipernity.com/group/europe - used only by Dimas Sequeira, Misou 49 and GIPE25.

Topic was "To capture the diversity and similarities in terms of architecture, landscapes, scenery and people of the countries of the European Union.". Because it is only active used by 3 members it can´t fulfill this topic. Also a group named "Europe" should caintain specific photos ABOUT the european union instead of photos made IN the europe union.

I don´t know what to do with groups like this....
3 years ago.
raingirl club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
The issue with the group is that the administrator is not a club member AND is not active since 2018. No need to judge if the group is viable or not. I saw that the 3 members contributing have their photos in many other groups as well.

In my opinion it is time to do the CLOSE the group with the notice (in the group description and with Sami's CLOSED or READ ME images) about how the group doesn't have an active administrator and so it will close if someone doesn't request to become admin. I think in the image he posts he either suggests other groups or albums, for the contributors images.

You can tell Sami and he will post the stuff to the groups if you make him admin (the way he and Rob are doing it?). If you don't know what I'm talking about, check with them.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… club
This is just good enough place to report such case (Gust member has only one group to admin). Another discussion topic, which you can use on similar cases is this:
www.ipernity.com/group/busters/discuss/196336

But the group you mentioned is now added as p-Sami, and I will take care of it.

p-Sami Europe www.ipernity.com/group/europe
Good name, and plenty of members. Probably first asking if anyone wants to take it. If anyone interested, then maybe ask to reconsider the description.
3 years ago.

This discussion has been closed by Sami Serola (inactive).