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Dear Team Ipernity ...


I was one of the many that came flooding across from flickr back in 2013 having found its revamp too messy, not at all intuitive and way too slow for my internet connection to handle.
I knew that in time I would have got used to all those new buttons and learnt how to do what used to come naturally, but it would still have looked a mess and still have been far too slow.
So I left flickr behind and began to set up my new home here on ipernity having decided that it was by far the best alternative product on the market.
In many ways it reminded me of the ‘old’ flickr, it was clean, fresh, and easy to use and above all it was fast. I didn’t have to wait for ages for photographs to load, there were no ‘bad pandas’ to be found and the people behind the site seemed keen to develop it as best they could, but in a way that suited the end user.
Team Ipernity not only communicated with account holders on a regular basis, they consulted them on possible new developments, they sought their opinions, and best of all they actually took on board what people had to say. All very refreshing in today’s world, particularly if you’d moved here from flickr and so I was quick to show my support by taking out Club Membership.
In that first year they posted 73 articles and made many subtle, but welcome improvements to the site. The following year that number dropped to 31, but they were still very active and the product continued to deliver in ways that flickr never did so I naturally renewed my membership and continued to add to my photostream without any concerns.
However, in 2015 it appears all is not well in ipernity. Since the beginning of the year following on from the cloud migration only 2 articles have been published by the team and none of them, with the exception of Julian, appear to be using the platform that they themselves helped create.
Elsewhere the team seem to be even less active with no posts on Twitter or Facebook at all in 2015 and the Google+ account seems to have died altogether.
All of this, combined with the team's tardiness when it comes to responding to tickets over recent months and their apparent inability to solve the problems reported, really does leave me worrying about what is happening to ipernity.
It has left me questioning if this is still a thriving go-ahead community inspired business model or if it is a project that is it being left to simply tick over before ultimately having the plug pulled and the life support switched off?
And I know from posts, articles and discussions I’ve read elsewhere that I’m far from being alone in having these concerns so I’m posting this open letter to Team Ipernity in the hopes that they might respond.
Don’t get me wrong, I still love ipernity and I’m not meaning to criticize the product or for that matter have a go at individuals … I’m merely expressing an opinion that, from the outside at least, it does indeed appear that all is not well in ipernity.
I accept that sometimes no matter how enthusiastic you are about a product and no matter how hard you try to make it succeed there are times when you can do no more: when you quite simply have no more time, energy or finances left to invest.
That may well be the situation as far as Team Ipernity are concerned and whilst it would be devastating news at least people would say they tried, they tried, but they failed. No shame in that, at least not as far as I’m concerned.
However, what would be unforgiveable would be if having reached that point they failed to communicate it properly and at the appropriate time to users, both existing and potential.
For instance, most people would think it very unprofessional to continue to take subscriptions knowing that the project had been cast adrift like a rudderless boat, which had been holed below the water line and abandoned simply to be left to sink without trace at some point in the future.
As it happens, my own Club Membership is up for renewal again in a few weeks and all this uncertainty is making me question whether I should renew this time around. So, it would be nice not only to have my open tickets dealt with, but to have some answers/reassurances about the future of ipernity.
If you share my views, or at least some of my concerns, and you too would like to know what the future holds for ipernity then please add the above image* into your faves.
Click that little star now and help shine the spotlight of Explore onto what we Brits would call "the elephant in the room".**
*The image shown entitled "Elephant In The Room" was produced by Canadian artist Brandon Thomas and sourced through the deviantart website. You can see more of his work here.
**The phrase "elephant in the room" is an idiom for an obvious truth that is either being ignored or going unaddressed. The expression also applies to an obvious problem or risk which no one wants to discuss.
I knew that in time I would have got used to all those new buttons and learnt how to do what used to come naturally, but it would still have looked a mess and still have been far too slow.
So I left flickr behind and began to set up my new home here on ipernity having decided that it was by far the best alternative product on the market.
In many ways it reminded me of the ‘old’ flickr, it was clean, fresh, and easy to use and above all it was fast. I didn’t have to wait for ages for photographs to load, there were no ‘bad pandas’ to be found and the people behind the site seemed keen to develop it as best they could, but in a way that suited the end user.
Team Ipernity not only communicated with account holders on a regular basis, they consulted them on possible new developments, they sought their opinions, and best of all they actually took on board what people had to say. All very refreshing in today’s world, particularly if you’d moved here from flickr and so I was quick to show my support by taking out Club Membership.
In that first year they posted 73 articles and made many subtle, but welcome improvements to the site. The following year that number dropped to 31, but they were still very active and the product continued to deliver in ways that flickr never did so I naturally renewed my membership and continued to add to my photostream without any concerns.
However, in 2015 it appears all is not well in ipernity. Since the beginning of the year following on from the cloud migration only 2 articles have been published by the team and none of them, with the exception of Julian, appear to be using the platform that they themselves helped create.
Elsewhere the team seem to be even less active with no posts on Twitter or Facebook at all in 2015 and the Google+ account seems to have died altogether.
All of this, combined with the team's tardiness when it comes to responding to tickets over recent months and their apparent inability to solve the problems reported, really does leave me worrying about what is happening to ipernity.
It has left me questioning if this is still a thriving go-ahead community inspired business model or if it is a project that is it being left to simply tick over before ultimately having the plug pulled and the life support switched off?
And I know from posts, articles and discussions I’ve read elsewhere that I’m far from being alone in having these concerns so I’m posting this open letter to Team Ipernity in the hopes that they might respond.
Don’t get me wrong, I still love ipernity and I’m not meaning to criticize the product or for that matter have a go at individuals … I’m merely expressing an opinion that, from the outside at least, it does indeed appear that all is not well in ipernity.
I accept that sometimes no matter how enthusiastic you are about a product and no matter how hard you try to make it succeed there are times when you can do no more: when you quite simply have no more time, energy or finances left to invest.
That may well be the situation as far as Team Ipernity are concerned and whilst it would be devastating news at least people would say they tried, they tried, but they failed. No shame in that, at least not as far as I’m concerned.
However, what would be unforgiveable would be if having reached that point they failed to communicate it properly and at the appropriate time to users, both existing and potential.
For instance, most people would think it very unprofessional to continue to take subscriptions knowing that the project had been cast adrift like a rudderless boat, which had been holed below the water line and abandoned simply to be left to sink without trace at some point in the future.
As it happens, my own Club Membership is up for renewal again in a few weeks and all this uncertainty is making me question whether I should renew this time around. So, it would be nice not only to have my open tickets dealt with, but to have some answers/reassurances about the future of ipernity.
If you share my views, or at least some of my concerns, and you too would like to know what the future holds for ipernity then please add the above image* into your faves.
Click that little star now and help shine the spotlight of Explore onto what we Brits would call "the elephant in the room".**
*The image shown entitled "Elephant In The Room" was produced by Canadian artist Brandon Thomas and sourced through the deviantart website. You can see more of his work here.
**The phrase "elephant in the room" is an idiom for an obvious truth that is either being ignored or going unaddressed. The expression also applies to an obvious problem or risk which no one wants to discuss.
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Chris finally got an answer the other day to a ticket she put in 5 months and 3 days ago. Pretty crappy service I say!
autofantasia club has replied to Shuttering YukonI had a ticket back in March that was not solved, and more recent ones do not appear to have been read.
There is also the problem of "fake" accounts opened to advertise things like dating sites based in the far east.
autofantasia club has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubPeter Van Lom has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubAdmired in:
www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance
autofantasia club has replied to William Sutherland clubDon't get me wrong I'm not rich by any means, but when you work out the costs over a year it's less than a daily newspaper. I'm not reluctant to pay because I think it's a bad product or that it's overpriced ... I simply want know I'm not paying for something that might disappear tomorrow! :(
Thanks for Posting in
The Hawk's Aerie!!
autofantasia club has replied to William Sutherland clubI have feeling that this is going to run and run and such additions will only make it more difficult for people to navigate. That said I do appreciate your other comments and the fact that the group you mention has helped promote this topic!
No offence intended ... I hope you understand?
Regards
PAUL
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Breast Cancer Awareness!
autofantasia club has replied to Stan Askew clubI have feeling that this is going to run and run and such additions will only make it more difficult for people to navigate. That said I do appreciate your other comments and the fact that the group you mention has helped promote this topic!
No offence intended ... I hope you understand and if you really want to help please add the image into your faves so we can push it all the way to the top of Explore and hopefully get some answers! :)
Regards
PAUL
I personally don't have any current problems with the way ipernity works, and have not had the need to contact them at all, so have not had any experience of the issues outlined here. I have recently renewed my membership for 2 years.
autofantasia club has replied to Gillian Everett clubThe real issue is the uncertainty that is creeping into people's minds and whilst I understand I may even be increasing those fears I still think it's right to tackle them head on! Thanks for the fvae BTW as I'm keen to see this image and what it represents pushed all the way to the top of Explore! :)
autofantasia club has replied to Clickity Clickautofantasia club has replied to Karen's Place clubautofantasia club has replied to Old Owl clubPlease remember this isn't about me, it isn't even about the image especially as it isn't one of mine, it's about pushing this issue all the way until the community get answers.
So, if you haven't already added this into your faves please think again about doing so. Even if you're not a subscribing member you still have something to lose if this great site disappears. I mean think of all the time you've invested in adding your photos onto the site. Think of all the great people you've met and with whom you exchange comments and ideas.
How would you feel if you switched on your computer tomorrow and ipernity had disappeared?
Please think about those things and click that star button to show you care about this site and you want it to thrive! :)
Regards
PAUL
I'm also from that other site and nowadays also trying 500px (but not satisfied at all). Wouldn't know where to go !!
I'm wondering if you will;get any answer from team Ipernity.
Jaap
autofantasia club has replied to Jaap van 't Veen clubPlease could you also add this into your faves? I wouldn't normally ask someone to do this, but this isn't about me, it's about the community as a whole getting some answers and the more faves the higher up the Explore chart this will go and so the more people will see it!
Many thanks! :)
PAUL
Jaap van 't Veen club has replied to autofantasia clubautofantasia club has replied to Graham Chance clubGraham Chance club has replied to autofantasia clubWell done Paul.
it would be a great shame if ipernity was just left to drift, but I think many
have already left and gone elsewhere ! and so renewals will now start
to be dropping off which will make the financial side of things very difficult
I suspect for the company. There was a brief period when someone on
staff seemed to walk in and clear a few "tickets" but then ... all went
quiet again. Some hiccups that do seem to be addressed sometimes,
lets hope indeed that this attracts some attention and gets read . . .
perhaps an "article" also with the lead into it this picture ... it would
add to the impact ... ;-) best of luck, Bev.
autofantasia club has replied to beverleyI noticed that there had been some back office activity, but as you say it has been minimal. I have 2 open tickets at the moment that have been ongoing for some time and neither has been accessed in the last 4 weeks! :(
beverley has replied to autofantasia club"slipped" to 12 pages instead of 18 ... whether this is done automatically and reset
I do not know ... but at one point it did seem to go on and on for a few days ... I
think some wrote to them about this ... it was rectifified along with a port video
appearing in explore videos ... that was reported ... it was removed .. and so
without a doubt someone is looking and checking ... but if there is only one
person monitoring ... then they have their work cut out for them ... lets hope
this gets noticed ... it is climbing up the charts as they say ;-)
autofantasia club has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubThe other problem with tickets is that they are often not being replied to, I have 2 in the system at the moment and they've not been read in the last 4 weeks! :(
Shuttering Yukon has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubNow if a bunch of people report it they have to look! don't they?
autofantasia club has replied to Shuttering YukonHaving said that I might just send them a link to this via a ticket! :)
I put in a ticket at the beginning of August, (4 months ago) and it hasn't even been read yet.
I had also renewed my membership for another 2 years. So yes, I am getting a bit concerned also.
Have added this to my faves....:-)
autofantasia club has replied to ╰☆☆June☆☆╮ clubThanks for your comments here June and for your support! :)
Jaap van 't Veen club has replied to Peter Van LomAbsolutely not satisfied with 500px, so looking around for something else, being not Fl....
Groet, Jaap
autofantasia club has replied to Peter Van LomPeter Van Lom has replied to Jaap van 't Veen club1x.com/member/nordicscapes
Peter Van Lom has replied to Jaap van 't Veen club1x.com/member/nordicscapes
You might take a look to the photosite from National Geographic too.
I put in a Ticket 15 Aug. 2015
on
28 Oct. 2015
'' we have answered that question''
But-- they have not.
Lea said she ''had to give it to the Technical Team'' -- makes me wonder if there is one ...
In spite of this, I shall remain -- have made wonderful friends...
But, this is NOT the Ipernity we knew when we signed up ...
they answered us in a timely manner !
Yes, have faved this found in: EXPLORE ~
Page 1 ------------
autofantasia club has replied to Peggy C clubautofantasia club has replied to Roger (Grisly) clubMany, many thanks to everyone for their comments and faves that have helped us achieve our first goal. Now we need to keep it there until we get some answers.
So, if you know anyone on ipernity who has any concerns at all about the long term future of this site and they've not already added this image into their faves then please, please let them know about what we're trying to do here.
We need as many people to show they too have concerns and we need to keep this image in Explore long enough for Team Ipernity not only to see it, but to realise they need to be open about what is happening behind the scenes.
We need to make sure that elephant in the room is finally addressed.
Kind regards
PAUL
autofantasia club has replied to Esther clubOnward !
autofantasia club has replied to Peggy C clubcomments and faves as they always do, does not knock it from the number one spot ;-)
autofantasia club has replied to beverleybeverley has replied to autofantasia clubyou have to be joking ... whatever for ... you are speaking up
for so many, not just yourself ... !
And no, it wasn't someone from Team Ipernity! ;)
Treasa Ui Cionaodha has replied to autofantasia clubYou are now #1 photo on Explore right now; thanks for providing a means for us to communicate our distress in unison!
Insofern kann ich den Vergleich IP-flickr nicht beurteilen.
IP ist um vieles besser als Panoramio, deshalb habe ich gerade mein Abonnement verlängert.
Allerdings, die Frage drängt sich auf:
gibt es überhaupt noch ein "Team Ipernity" ?
the last months we made a lot of jokes about the iper staff (endless holidays, lost the keys for the staff room etc.)... they don't read the mails (my oldest ticket is from june 22, still ignored and probably ignored forever), and many members tried to wake them up, to reanimate them, but: no life signs... guess, iper is working as long as the bills for the energy of the servers are paid... 8-)
www.ipernity.com/explore/whatshot
I knew I wasn’t the first to have these worries. I knew I wasn’t the first to voice them. And so, when I posted this image and the attached article, I felt confident it would attract some interest and thought wouldn’t it be amazing if we could really push this all the way to the top of the Explore charts.
Then yesterday when we actually achieved that goal I was simply blown away and so went to bed last night very happy indeed.
To be fair though I thought there was every chance that we’d peaked and that the image might get knocked off the number one spot overnight and I feared our cries for answers might go unheard.
However, when I logged on today and saw not only that the image was still sitting there on Page 1, but that it had now generated over 100 faves I genuinely felt overwhelmed.
There are so many good points being made in the discussions that I feel rather than me trying to reply to them all individually it's probably best now if I just sit back and let your voices be heard along with mine.
Huge thanks to each and every one of you for stepping forward, whether you’ve submitted a comment or simply added this image into your faves.
Let’s hope that even if there is no longer a Team Ipernity as some have suggested that there is still at least one person there to hear what the community has to say.
Best wishes
PAUL
it had to be done and you're number one
a voice to be heard otherwise it's absurd
you are gathering momentum all of the time
well put together and about time
a response we would like to see it is true
from staff on ipernity or it just won't do
I hope you stay put for all to see
as it is the weekend very nearly . . .
so hang on in here our NUMBER ONE
we really don't want to see this gone . . .
*
Hopefully 'somebody' will answer.
autofantasia club has replied to Jaap van 't Veen clubStill at #1 Explore too !
Wir, die wir das Panoramio-Fiasko erlebt haben, lebten unter den neuen Freunden und mit den vielfältigeren Möglichkeiten von Ipernity regelrecht auf und erlebten kreativen Anschub. Wie ich sehe, haben die meisten nach dem ersten Jahr vor kurzem vertrauensvoll ihre Mitgliedschaft verlängert, weil sie Gegenwart und Zukunft unabhängig von der Vergangenheit in der Ipernitygemeinschaft erleben möchten .
Das beinhaltet einen Auftrag an das Team, der über den Anspruch hinausgeht, zu erfahren, wie es um die Situation der Site bestellt ist. Es wäre ein Jammer, wenn Teilnehmer abspringen, weil sie sich von einem handlungsunfähigen Team im Stich gelassen fühlen.
Ich kann nur hoffen, dass diese von Paul eingeleitete Aktion Wirkung zeigt.
With that in mind and being conscious that the translation button may not work on an article as long as the one I initially wrote, I have now produced an edited down version, which one of my French friends here on ipernity has been kind enough to translate.
I hope that by posting this translation, we will be able to generate further support for our campaign, in particular from the many French speaking users of ipernity.
Please click here to read the translated article or use the link below. Then if you share our concerns please return here to fave the image.
www.ipernity.com/blog/autofantasia/3880808
but, any contact from Ipernity, Paul ?
Peggy C club has added.. dated in May
.. second paragraph is very interesting !!
autofantasia club has replied to Peggy C clubautofantasia club has replied to Peggy C clubLet's hope we hear something soon! :)
But I knew about some spammer ...
So in any case I'm with you, thanks for your action.
No I tried about 13 different sites that appeared to be OK but only Ipernity offered everything I and many of my contact friends needed. After trying it out for fourteen days decided it was worth becoming what was then called a Pro user, later changed to Club member so I paid up for four years.
During the past three months there have been several Glitches, many of them I believe to have been caused by dramatic modifications to Browsers in order that these browsers function correctly with Windows 10, I may be wrong but . . . .
They say "Silence is Golden", that may be true in a classroom full of rowdy kids but from those that run this site it certainly leaves us worrying.
John
Until then, I have not renewed my membership
I did not (yet ?) realize that there was (is) a problem for them moment.
On my behalf I have not moved from Flickr at all - but maybe that surprises - from a wonderful french photo-site-forum called "Pixelistes". There it was really a very friendly corner, completely free but one day, approx. two years ago the administrator soled the site to a company dealing in something like publicity (I do not exactly know what) and all the people helping the site best like redactors, modérateurs, guides, développeurs etc. etc. Most of them resigned in 2014 and after it was working one a really low level. The site still exists but most of my friends have left it for elsewhere but have kept a certain contact. One of the members has joined ipernity end of 2014 and suggested that I should come too. I did so I think in February this year.
So far I have not seen any problems for me but . . . . who knows.
I am still active on two other photo forums but only in "low speed" way.
Looking my age, I am not very keen to change for changing - but again who knows.
Well keep me informed if . . . .
Due to family problems (daughter going to hospital needing help - see explanation in my pages) I cannot be very active during them next 8 weeks.
That's all for the moment
.
I'm not on Fcaebook / google+ / twitter so can't message them on those services ...
.
beverley has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubused to respond from there if you wrote to them ... but now ... no ... !
Stormlizard club has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubautofantasia club has replied to StoneRoad2013 clubAs for mailing them here I have not done that, but I have posted links in their guestbook where that was possible and I have opened a ticket concerning this matter, but which has not been read never mind replied to.
It all makes things look rather bleak, but I am still hoping it is a case of "we're just a small team ... we're only human and have other things going on in our lives", but increasingly it is hard to be so optimistic! :(
Si advierto una desmesura en el número de grupos que se repiten de forma un poco absurda, debiera organizarse mejor eso.
De cualquier modo, mi felicitación Paul, por tu valentía en realizar este manifiesto.
Un cordial y amistoso saludo.
Marije
autofantasia club has replied to Marije Aguillo clubGood luck with this !!
I'm assuming reporting inappropriate content is at least semi automated as no response other than deleting content.
It is worrying, this is similar to the situation at fotopic.
My apologies for not replying to each and every post that has been made, but rightly or wrongly I took a view when I saw just how many people had something they wanted to add that it best that I let others talk and only reply where I felt it necessary or appropriate.
That doesn't mean I don't appreciate what everyone has had to say ... I really, really do!
It is now four days since I posted the 'elephant' and I'm delighted that it is still sitting near the top of Explore. I have left links to this thread on various Team Ipernity articles and in the guestbook of individual team members including lea d'ipernity.
I have also opened a ticket (Ticket #35492) using the "I have a suggestion" option. My suggestion was simply that they follow the link to this article, read what I and dozens of other people have had to say and then issue some kind of reply/statement.
Two days on and that ticket has not been read.
So, much as I still hope all is well with Team Ipernity, and that it's just a case of them having been busy with other things it is becoming increasingly difficult to remain optimistic and positive about the future.
Rest assured if I hear anything from Team Ipernity direct I will post details of it here.
Best wishes to everyone who has helped promote this campaign so far.
PAUL
Thank you for your message. Personally I did not arrive from Flickr but from a very big French Photo Forum. Where I met some major problems maybe similar to what you mention here. That happened approx. two-year ago when them former administrator sold the Forum to a private company.
Now regarding ipernity - I so far have not had or felt any kind of problems that concern me. But should I have the feeling, I shall not fail to let you know.
Anyhow, thank you for your message and I wish you them best possible future and have my regards.
Ernest CH
autofantasia club has replied to Valfalautofantasia club has replied to beverleyIt is somewhat impossible to predict what service will eventually become and stay popular. And kind of sad to see promising ones to fade away. And very likely it also means the change of online friendships.
But I try to be positive and just bought one more year of club membership here at Ipernity.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has addedI also suggest people keep on commenting, because that probably also affects on how long a picture stays on Explore.
P.S. And if this campaign turns out not successful, then I suggest you Paul, or we all post some more "elephant pictures".
There's a fine balance to be struck here I think between focussing everyone's attention, which I think we have so far, and diluting the message ... less can sometimes be more! :)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to autofantasia clubI meant we could start a new campaign only if this post disappears from the top 1-5 pages of Explore, or after some time like few weeks or so.
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