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Derivative work?

Derivative work?
Here's an interesting problem for (all of) you to think about.

Previously I have tried to inform people on copyright issues. According to Wikimedia Commons, for example board games are one example on subject that people should avoid photographing.

But then there is a concept of derivative works to consider. So, the question is:

What makes something as a derivative work (enough)?

For example on case of such image as above, is the subject altered enough to become as a derivative work? Original subject is a jigsaw puzzle by Ravensburg and subject of illustration by Aimee Stewart. Well, removing colors is very likely not enough. But if the pieces of puzzle are spread out like seen above, and part of the puzzle is out of focus, would it be then enough? And the same case concerning for example any copyright protected image. So, was Andy Warhol an ingenious artist or a biggest con artist of all time?

And ever since gaming and playing have become popular discussion topic online, board game fans have had to ask the same questions.

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 Au Cœur... diagonalhorizon
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"So, was Andy Warhol an ingenious artist or a biggest con artist of all time?"

do you know the meaning of con
in french
lol !

I feel very curious about these ideas of coping with copying
reproducing vs creating

not only for "the Magritte story" ;-)

like collages for instance. Exm www.instagram.com/p/B-RjaPfntt4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
4 years ago.
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied
All the more reason why I have seriously started to consider "nature photography" as only safe option, and forget all man made artifacts =,D

When I was starting amateur photography, I especially admired nature photographers like Finnish Hannu Hautala. I was even dreaming to become like him. And now the dream has returned...
4 years ago.
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied
"do you know the meaning of con in french"

No vittu joo! =D

What comes to collages, I suppose they are usually called in English and Freanch as "photomontages".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photomontage
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photomontage

The interesting question then again is that when the photo montage made out of someone else's photos becomes a separate independent work(?) Although, one can of course use only one's own material to create a photo montage.
4 years ago.
 John FitzGerald
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"Was Andy Warhol an ingenious artist or the biggest con artist of all time?" Yes, he was. He said as much himself -- at least, he distinguished between the work he thought of as art and the stuff he churned out for commercial purposes. He called himself a weekend artist.

Rauschenberg? Well, he started licensing images after a few lawsuits.

In general I think pop art failed to live up to its potential -- as Bradford Collins has noted, the pop artists were the first artists to realize that religious and political iconography had been replaced in the modern world by the iconography of advertising. Unfortunately, they didn't get anywhere as far with that idea as non-artists had earlier -- for example, Marshall McLuhan in The Mechanical Bride.

Maybe their reputation as con artists comes from that failure. I don't know which reputation would be better to have.
4 years ago. Edited 4 years ago.
 John FitzGerald
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The issue of course varies from country to country. In Canada street photography has been protected by publishers who have gone to court to protect their use of photos of public events. In the EU, I gather, there is less protection. If Trump gets a second term, I think we will soon see an executive order requiring all US news photographs be approved by the Republican National Committee.
4 years ago. Edited 4 years ago.

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