Silver Plate with a Philosophical Debate in the Getty Villa, June 2016

Title: Plate with Relief Decoration

Artist/Maker: Unknown

Culture: Byzantine

Place: Eastern Mediterranean (Place Created)

Date: 500–600

Medium: Silver

Object Number: 83.AM.342

Dimensions: 45 × 28 cm, 2.5475 kg (17 11/16 × 11 in., 5.6162 lb.)

Inscription(s): Inscription: Names of Hermes, Ptolemaios, and Skepsis in Greek. Secondary Inscription: Group of five Greek characters along the edge of the rim.

Alternate Titles: Hermes Trismegistos Teaching Ptolemey the World System (Display Title)

Fragmentary Plate with Ptolemy and Hermes Trismegistos (Display Title)

Department: Antiquities

Classification: Implements

Object Type: Plate

Two seated philosophers, labeled Ptolemy and Hermes, engage in a spirited discussion on this fragmentary plate. A woman stands behind each man, gesturing and partaking in the exchange. The woman on the left is identified as Skepsis. Above the two seated men, an unidentified enthroned man is partially preserved. The scene on this plate has been interpreted as an allegory of the debate between Myth and Science: Ptolemy, the founder of the Alexandrian school of scientific thought, debating Hermes Trismegistos, a deity supporting the side of myth.

On technical, iconographic, and stylistic grounds, some scholars had questioned the authenticity of this plate and suggested that it may date instead to the 1500s A.D. More recent, detailed study of the plate, however, has confirmed its antiquity.

Text from: www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/10598/unknown-maker-plate-with-relief-decoration-byzantine-500-600