Solara4, Vaqueiros, Algarve , HFF

That sounds very shortsighted Isabel. There are many fields of this "crop" over here, but I think the regulations are tighter. They tend to be in what were open fields. There is a balance to be struck, but as usual, profits come first!

Indeed and sadly...

HFF nad stay safe and healthy!

Mon dieu !! mais que devient la nature avec tout ça ?? Quelle drôle de conception écologique
HFF Xata

Ecologie du profit !!!!

Agresiones al medio ambiente, ojala el costo beneficio sea favorable para la ecologia y no para el bolsillo de algunos, por otra parte lindas fotos, una serie de techos azules, HFF Isabel
Estuve ocupado y ahora en USA hasta mañana, me vine a poner una dosis extra de la vacuna porque en Lima nos vacunaron con la vacuna china que es la menos efectiva, hay varios colegas medicos muertos a pesar de las dos dosis. Abrazo

Hola Mario mucho me alegra que estés bien. Tiempos dificiles, ni sabemos adonde vamos. Mucha gente en situaciones dificiles por aqui y del Estado mucho hablar pero pocas ayudas efectivas...
Yo tengo las 2 de la Pfizer, además vivo algo apartada de lo que no és seguro, no por miedo pero porque soy persona de la naturaleza...

HFF Dir.

Bei so viel Sonne die ihr habt, lohnt sich das wirklich. HFF und ein schönes Wochenende, Isabel!

Worth for the pannels and those who makes the profit out of it.
But for us who live in a dry land over 6 months a year and have already very little rain, is that wise to kill the not enough trees we has and replace them by solar pannels? Will they provide us with the so much needed rain?

HFF Isabel. Prinzipiell gebe ich Dir recht, aber der Strom muss irgendwo herkommen. Keine Kernkraft (zu gefährlich und die Entsorgung), keine Kohle, Öl oder Gas(Umweltverschmutzung und Ausbeutung der Erde), keine Windräder (häßlich, gefährlich für Vögel, Bäume werden gefällt), keine Solaranlagen (ebenfalls häßlich und nimmt der Natur ihren Raum außer auf Dächern). Was bleibt jetzt noch? Wasserkraft? In vielen Regionen der Erde auch eher utopisch.

Most important for my region is WATER. We have an over 6 months dry season and almost no rain the other half of the year. Fires took down trees, solar pannel plants are taking down what is left. And without trees... no rain !
I may be too old to see the results but we are already transforming us in a subdesertical area, they want us to become a desert?
Why not think of reducing demography and our consumption habits too?

You are definately right with the consumption habits, Isabel! No more factory farming!

Je trouve ces panneaux très laids, les éoliennes aussi. Il nous faut de l'énergie, c'est certain mais beaucoup de pays ne jouent pas le jeux et se fichent pas mal de polluer notre planète.

A huge project indeed. We have no choice but to pay a price, -- best is to minimize the damage!

HFF Best wishes

Best would be reducing demography and our consumption habits...

Progress is not always better, HFF enjoy your weekend.

bisher hat man immer nur im Großen gedacht - ein großes Kraftwerk viele große Windenergieanlagen. eine große Autofabrik

So reducing demography and our consumption habits would be the solution...

That's interesting. Well done.

HFF, enjoy the weekend. Herb

I'm comfortable with solar panels (I have some on my roof) but large commercial operations should not be allowed to cause environmental damage by removing trees. HFF and have a great weekend, Isabel.

Have pannels on my roof too, but didn´t have to kill trees for that... obrigada George

HFF and a very nice weekend, Isabel !

Ours are on our roof, but the solar "gardens" are generally placed in fields, as someone has already said. And there are movements to make the rows between the panels and under them a habitat for small animals and insects. Cutting down trees to set up the arrays sounds downright stupid. Someone must have sold them the land the panels are on?

Expropriated you mean... corruption is the rule here... unfortunately. Those so-called ecological companies only care about their profits, they use ecology to make business...

Solar has a great future but must be done correctly ,
HFF and a good weekend Isabel

bien équipé en panneau solaire top ca,, bonne fin de semaine pour toi isabel,

Pas top, lis le texte...

Triste imagem, Apetece dizer "Do you need a match?"
HFF Isabel.

Definetely...

EYESORE! there must be better ways than this.

That does indeed look invasive, Isabel. Solar panelling is not the eco friendly way that it is promoted to be. There are simpler, virtually maintenance free and much less invasive techniques we should be promoting, but ... -you are right again! - there's not enough money in those!
HFF all the same but ... I am startibng to despair we can clean up the mess we are making of the planet ...

HFF und ein gutes Wochenende

HFF Isabell und ein wunderbares Wochenende!

HFF Isabel!

Fantasticas imagens desta nova paisagem alentejana!!
Impressionante, Isabel!
HFF também para ti!

Tristemente fantásticas Judite... estão por cima dum cemitério de árvores...

Excessive Isabel, I agree, and they should be used correctly and with no adverse effect on the environment. We do have some fields of solar panels but we have yet another huge nuclear power station being built close by and it is ugly and an exirbitant price has already been agreed for the fuel. We will be paying the cost for years to come. Also the legacy it will leave behind as far as nuclear waste alone is concerned will be detrimental to the planet and will be with us fo rmany years. We are not in the same position as you and there is no comparison (no shortge of rain here most of the time) but I would prefer to see solar panel farming here than the awful monstosity that many do not want.

As we all agree there must be a better way

HFF and have a good weekend

As I said above, reducing demography and our consumption habits would be the solution...

Hi Isabel
I like this picture, and the discussion, very much!
Of course we could all be carbon neutral / environmentally friendly, and live in caves!!
Best Wishes, a nice weekend, and stay safe!!
Peter

HFF Isabel!

Too bad, So much damage is caused by the drive for more and more profits.

Indeed, under cover of an hypocrit "environmentally friendly" pretext huge profits are the big deal...

THE CLEAN FUTURE !

WITHOUT TREES AND WATER? WHAT ABOUT RECYCLING THESE THINGS AFTER THEIR LIFESPAN (20 YEARS)?

Se a geografia dos paineis for bem planeada, é preferível tê-los no terreno do que alimentar os incêndios florestais.

Mais fácil evitar incêndios que reciclar estes milhares de painéis...

Interesting pictures and discussions...

Belated HFF and have a nice weekend,Isabel!

Best wishes
Füsun

It sounds as if the whole plan has not been well thought through, Isabel. We here have the same issues….or some of them. Severe water shortages, and the use of arable or forest(water retaining) land for power generation, or even worse, fracking! Our planners are all mad.
Have a lovely Sunday.

You are right, they are all mad. We will not see the consequences at our age, but there is little hope for future generations, the only way is reducing our number on earth and learn to live with less... but consumerism is designed to lead to the opposite...

Isto acontece quando as decisões são tomadas não a partir de uma visão estratégica, mas de uma miopia estratégica. HFF atrasado, Isabel!

Muito bem resumido, Dimas, dito com muita lucidez!