Albion Beatnik bookshop cafe

Two good street photos IMHO, even if the second should be much more enjoyable in a larger format. I was surprised to find no comments or stars... yet there are a lot of your country fellows in this site... then I saw that you didn't posted it in any group. That may explain the emptiness here. Well it could be a choice of yours but don't expect that people will find your photos so well hidden here. In all the sites where I have been nobody got any comments or "likes" unless she/he started commenting other photos. No matter how good the photos could be. In one site they gave this advice: be interested in other people's photos if you want that they will be interested in yours.

I thought we'd already discussed this subject at some length. I don't take photos for the purpose of collecting comments and faves. This is a picture of the Albion Beatnik in Jericho. If any Ipernity member wants to see it, they can easily find it from the title and keywords. And hopefully it might be displayed to a wider audience on the search engines. In that way, I would be providing a service to anyone who has an interest in the place.

I don't see the point of posting it in a group for shops and then feeling obliged to look at umpteen other pictures of shops. That is not what I am here for.

Yes, we had discussed already this topic... but honestly I'm not convinced by your words.

" In that way, I would be providing a service to anyone who has an interest in the place. "

I don't believe in philanthropy, at least in this context. I know too well human soul or psyche if you prefer. When you told me that the first time I thought, OK, good for her if that's all she wants. But it seems to me that that attitude of yours implies a complete disinterest in commenting other people photos, but I feel a contradiction here because you bothered to comment mine. Either you made an exception - God only knows why - or there are inner needs one is not aware of. Mind: I'm just speculating, uttering my thoughts without the pretence that they are the bible. So throw them away and forget them if things are not that way! (:-)

I do comment on other people's photos sometimes (not just yours), but I'm not going to spend all day doing it. I have the Ipernity page open whilst I'm working on other things, then glance at it occasionally when I want a break. I'm not going to dedicate my whole life to great-shotting other people's photos just so they'll come and look at mine. I don't see the point of that.

Yes, I loved it when I got hundreds of views on the F-site, but those views were mostly coming from the internet search engines, not from currying praise by great-shotting other members in groups. I liked having comments from people across the world saying, "I went to that place twenty years ago, thank you so much for bringing back happy memories." And sometimes I would make a special trip to photograph a particular place they asked to see.

So does that explain it to you? I'm not an expert photographer, nor do I pretend to be. I use a very simple camera and snap scenes as I'm passing. I do it for my own pleasure, and to keep a record of changing views. If other people enjoy looking at them too, that is a bonus.

The above shop may well be gone in years to come, and I will have a record of how things used to be. Simple as that.

I'm beginning to get your point... I'm rather slow in that but what's important is to arrive... (:-)

I guess the main responsible factor here for this misunderstanding is our completely different background and orientation. First of all: what is F-site? I'm not an oracle and sincerely have no idea of what is.

As I told you in one of our previous discussions, I'm interested in photography, i.e. techniques, compositions, genres, etc. and being a self-taught photographer I discovered that actively participating in real photographic sites one can learn a lot studying other people photos, commenting them, i.e. finding out what makes them so effective, and in a lesser way from other people feed back if they are kind enough to point out the faults of my photos or suggest improvements. And I assure you I have learnt a lot from almost all photographic sites I have attended. This is photography for me (and for all the other photographers I have met there): the pleasure to create a satisfying composition, a clear and lively image and to check if my impressions about my creations are shared by people who are skilled and have the same tastes as mine. And last but not least: the pleasure to learn, to improve, to be exposed to new ideas thanks to the contacts with other talented photographers. All the real photographic sites, sites for photographers, are meant t satisfy those pleasures. So if you understand all that you can understand why I tried a battle here in favour of meaningful comments versus "great shotting" ones (oh! the marvellous flexibility of English language!) -

(Let me open a bracket here: you are utterly adverse to those great-shotting comments but yet you objected at my winding up that fellow who uses them. Is not this a contradiction?)

Now you have a complete different orientation. As a matter of fact (forgive my plain speaking) you are not interested in photography - at least that is what one can gather from what you said. One might say that you are interested in Clicktography (:-) You just click and let the stupid machine (your camera) do the work for you. Have you ever seen the catalogues of garden/flowers firms? Those photos are very useful but you can't call that photography...

So given this disastrous situation, this unbridgeable gap between us, (I'm being a bit too dramatic here) what can we do? Might it be that just because of that we arrived at that unfortunate "great shot" affair? (:-)

The F-site is that unmentionable F**ckr, which used to be the best photo-sharing site in the world, until May 2013 when they suddenly changed the interface and people left in their droves. It featured very high on the Google search lists (unlike Ipernity), so one got massive publicity for one's photos, regardless of whether one displayed in groups.

Different folks, different strokes. You are interested in the technical side of photography, whilst I am not. I describe myself as not a photographer but just someone who takes pictures. I rely on the serendipity of the camera and the moment, but I have the 'photographer's eye' and do sometimes get the shots that the professionals miss.

So we each have different motives for what we do, but neither is wrong.

I could perhaps learn proper photography with an SLR. But that would require giving up time that I would rather devote to other things. Due to disabilities, I would also have difficulty using a heavy camera that requires manual zooming and focusing. The beauty of my present camera (which is seriously outdated) is that I can comfortably use it with one hand.

I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say I objected to you winding up that fellow who uses great-shotting comments. Please refresh my memory.

I was just going to bed but I can stay for some other minutes on my chair...

"I would also have difficulty using a heavy camera that requires manual zooming and focusing. The beauty of my present camera (which is seriously outdated) is that I can comfortably use it with one hand."

I don't have a SLR Camera. I had two of them in the film age and I got fed up of their weight, so when the digital ones arrived I chose a compact. Anyway the modern digital SLR cameras are much lighter and they all have automatic focus. You may find wonderful compact cameras which can be contained in one hand, and surely the sensor will be much better than your present one. Forget all the other features if you are not interested in technicalities but the quality of the sensor is of uttermost importance.

"I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say I objected to you winding up that fellow who uses great-shotting comments. Please refresh my memory."

I suspected that you were not properly informed here...

You will find the whole discussion here: www.ipernity.com/doc/1084127/36273444

Muriel 2014 SEASONS…
A beautiful picture. I've never been there but it look wonderful:))

I read something in a discussion in a group and see you also
have a "Great shot"........that's the only comment I get too!!!

Yacht Libra ha risposto a Muriel 2014 SEASONS…

Thanks Muriel.
It's OK when you receive "great shot" once and it maybe comes from the heart. But when you receive 5 comments from the same person saying "great shot", then I suspect the person has really nothing to say... (:-) I wrote an article about this, maybe it can amuse you to read it.

8 giorni fa.

Isisbridge ha risposto a Yacht Libra

Pictures are for looking at. Why should one be obliged to discuss the scene in words?
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Read also your other answer to my answer there...

Why you intruded in our discussion?

This story began with a discussion I had with Joan about copy and paste comments, (I think it was in one of my photos but I cant' remember which one now) - Joan has a marvellous sense of humour and she completely agreed with my attitude. So she told me about a friend of her who like me didn't like that kind of comments. A fellow was commenting his photos all the times with "nice shot". At a certain moment he could not refrain himself and answered back to that fellow: "Do you ever write anything else?"

Isn't it a great answer? (:-) Anyway Joan and I found it very amusing and I told Joan that I had to remember that sentence in case someone wrote to me that kind of comments.
(By the way Joan promised to wind me up and write "nice shot" in one of my photos, just to have a good laugh...)

Few days later an American guy commented five different photos of mine in a row saying all the times: "Great shot". After the third time I answered him: "Do you ever write anything else?" That is my sense of humour... needless to say I told the whole story to Joan...

Now Muriel must have read the discussion between me and Joan and so made that comment of her. You came in .... criticising my answer to her, why?
I thought you had read the discussion with Joan too...
So now you owe me an explanation please (:-)