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Posted: 06 Aug 2017

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Mountain trail

Mountain trail
I don't know what the road is for. There was never any timber on this dry hill. The trail was there 50 years ago when I first left town. I have never seen any vehicles on it. I can hear coyotes once in awhile and I think they live in those rocky outcrops.

I am standing a ways up the foot of the mountain and, no, I had no desire to hike up there!

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 Diane Putnam
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No, I'm not. I know there are some in the counties west of us, but I've never heard of them east of Jackson County. Maybe they're young ponderosa pines (there are couple of older ones further up), but to me they look like junipers before they get that ugly, scraggly look. If I think of it I'll try to find out.
7 years ago. Edited 7 years ago.
 slgwv
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Years ago a forester friend told us the mnemonic they learn: "You can play catch with Jeff." The spikes on the outside of the Jeffrey's cones point inward, while on the ponderosa they point outward. Mature Jeffrey pines also have a distinct vanilla odor, from all the volatiles in their sap. In fact, their sap contains a very pure gasoline, n-heptane IIRC. This gave the old-timers an incentive to tell the trees apart, because if you try to distill turpentine from Jeffrey sap you get an explosion!

Anyway, the trees _are_ very similar... ;) We have mostly Jeffrey pines in the Sierra foothills here, which is not surprising as they can tolerate a bit drier conditions than the ponderosas.
7 years ago.
 Andy Rodker
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Excellent shot! (Apologies for cut and paste but it's difficult to comment individually on 2 week's worth of missed photos!!)
7 years ago.
 Diane Putnam
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My sincere thanks, Andy!
7 years ago.
 Diane Putnam
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I don't recall any vanilla odor, anywhere around here or out in the more wooded areas. Cones with inward spikes...that doesn't ring a bell, either. Well', the Jeff sounds like a dangerous tree! All the maps show the same thing - no Jeffreys east of Jackson Co.
nwconifers.com/m/sw/jeffreymap.gif

I've probably seen them in the Lake Almanor area, where my son used to live.
7 years ago. Edited 7 years ago.

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