Be a part of shaping ipernity's future!

Gelezen.

......danke für die Info:))

Viel Erfolg bei der Suche und fettes Danke an Bernhard!

Vielen Dank für die aufopferungsvolle Arbeit, Bernhard!!!

Although being an active member, I'm too old (80 years) for candidacy. Hope you find the volunteers you need! The best!

Es gibt keine Altersobergrenze, lediglich eine Begrenzung nach unten (18 Jahre).

Hi Armando. I'm so glad you are active here! As others say, there is no age limit. But even if one can't take on the volunteer work oneself, we could use help spreading the word to people who don't normally read these posts.

If you want to mention our search for a treasurer to your contacts here - that would be a big help.

"The volunteers you need" is a wrong phrase, Andreas. "The volunteers we need" is more appropriate. Indeed, "we" are all dependent on the goodwill that must be invested; the future of the site and of our community depends on it. Everyone must feel involved in finding, for March 27 - and thus February 25 - the one or those who will allow us to keep alive our dear site....
Kind regards.

I shared the IMA Team appeal on my Facebook page!

Right, Eric! I accept the amendment!

Well said Eric. We do need these volunteers and badly. The site can't run itself without people who fill these vital roles.

Thank you for posting on your Facebook page! Excellent idea, much appreciated.

Anyone who can't take on the volunteer work needed, can help by letting their contacts know about our search for treasurer. Not everyone reads these posts - spreading the word would be very helpful.

So why not put the link to this post/site under every new photo till February 25?

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Nice suggestion, Andreas. Done for me.

Excellent idea. Doing now.

Done.

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=EN=
We can do it altogether, really !
We should not think of the positions of vice-president and treasurer as ministers with all the power and responsibility! These roles can be assumed in a collegial manner: we are neither a board of directors of a big company nor a council of ministers under the control of an omnipotent president... Everyone can participate, according to their skills and availability.

Aren't there enough of us to take up the challenge, as Stefan/Kiezkickerde says?
A handful of members saved the site in 2017. The success of the adventure, although insurmountable a priori, has shown that the most difficult has been conquered. It is now only a matter of perpetuating what has been hard worked out in 5 years and to conduct a strategy already proven and perennial.
Let us all be volunteer and ipernity will live!

=FR=
Nous pouvons y arriver tous ensemble.
Il ne faut pas se représenter les fonctions de vice-président et de trésorier comme celles de ministres investis de tous les pouvoirs et responsabilités ! Ces rôles peuvent être assumés de façon collégiale : nous ne sommes ni un conseil d'administration d'une grande entreprise ni un conseil des ministres sous la coupe d'un président omnipotent... Chacun peut participer, à la mesure de ses compétences et disponibilités.

Ne sommes-nous pas assez nombreux pour relever le défi, comme le dit Stefan/Kiezkickerde ??
Une poignée de membres à sauvé le site en 2017. La réussite de l'aventure, pourtant insurmontable a priori, a montré que le plus difficile a été conquis. Il ne s'agit plus que de perpétuer ce qui a été durement élaboré en 5 ans et de conduire une stratégie déjà éprouvée et pérenne.
Répondons tous présents et ipernity vivra !

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merci pour votre travail et bonne retraite à vous,,,je vais faire de la pub autour de moi,,

It would be very unusual but do we have to have a Treasurer could it be 2 Treasurers with joint powers, maybe sharing the post with a friend would be more appealing than taking the post alone, I don't know how you deal with payments but I assume like most clubs 2 out of 3 people have to sign. Ideally both would speak the same language to avoid any misunderstandings

@Peter
The mandate of Treasurer does have to be filled by one person, but indeed some of the load can be split to nominated executive assistants at the Treasurer's discretion. Due to security measures, one can find that to access the bank account from a different device, a code has to be entered. But that code is sent to the mobile phone associated with the account. So it can be done by arrangement when required, but typically the payment schedule would be planned in advance, and thus not an issue to be the responsibility of the Treasurer alone.

Rob Stamp

gelezen ik begrijp de situatie maar het is niks voor mij.....ik heb nu al moeite met denken! en vanalles te onthouden!

You can help us search by letting your contacts know. You can simply ask them to read this page. There are many people who don't read the team articles for various reasons - but one of them may be able to and want to help.

ik zal het proberen!

Ik schreef nu reeds 7 leden,,,ik wacht even af -Laura )

Thank you!

Thank you for alerting me Fred, but it's not a post I could think of taking on. I do however thank Bernhard for his excellent work and hope the retirement is greatly enjoyed.

Posted a link to this blog via my articles.

thank you!

Gelesen.
Danke für die Info.

thanks for the info......

For all who might be afraid to volunteer, the effort doesn't have to be too time consuming. It just requires a couple of hours a week in many cases. Many long time and loyal members spend more time commenting and running their groups each week! So please don't let fear of time constraints discourage you. Thank you!

it is not this....it is more that I fear not to be able to be vice-president nor treasurer.....

I am sorry

I am so sorry that I can't help but I am 75 and that really is too old. I hope and pray we will find someone, as our future depends on it.

The services of the Vice President and Treasurer are indeed vital to keeping our community growing, healthy, and bringing us all joy every day. I really hope we can find the right people with dedication, energy and good new ideas!

Et en français cela donne quoi....?????

Veuillez utiliser le traducteur automatique intégré. Celui-ci est mis gratuitement à la disposition de tous les membres du club.

Les invités peuvent y faire traduire les messages : www.deepl.com/translator

hopefully the most suitable candidate will be treasurer !
With sufficient knowles of accounting , and of course reliabilty !

with friendly greetings Ron Stachowiak

RON,,,jij bent eerst 60 was het niks voor jou,,probeer het eens !?
jij bent nog tamelijk jong en de drie jaar mulo (middelbaar onderwijs) die je genoten hebt zullen zeker wel sporen hebben nagelaten.

I don't understand at all why so many think they have to have 'knowledge of accounting'. Any housewife can keep a cash book and anyone can pay bills. The few additional skills can be acquired if one wants to. I have also done it and would of course hand over my knowledge to a successor.

With regard to age, let me note that more than 50 percent of all club members are younger than 65. Two thirds are younger than me. The above appeal of the ima team is primarily addressed to them, as it is not only important that the membership stock regularly gets young new blood, but also our club's board of managers. With almost 70 years of age, I am a fossil in it meanwhile. It is really time to make room for a younger successor. And after five years of full commitment, I can also pass on the baton with a clear conscience.

Read more about it, if you like: Time for a breath of fresh air

OK. I'm willing to volunteer for the position of treasurer, but I would like more information. For example, why is it "legally required," and by which country's law (I do not reside in France and I am not a French citizen). Also, how binding is the position? I mean, suppose that I am "hired" for it but I realize after two or three months that I cannot handle it, and I want to quit. What happens then? Will I be sued for "breach of contract" or something like that? Anyway, I would appreciate as much detail as possible. Thanks in advance.

Thank you for volunteering Nicolas, I hope that there are satisfactory answers to the concerns you have

A brave and generous application, Nicolas. Thank you so much.
The members of ima will duly answer your questions, be sure.

Hi Nicolas,

as acting Treasurer and Vice-President, I would like to say that the ima team is pleased about your attendance. (I have not agreed this with our President William Sutherland and my two board colleagues Laura Fletcher and Stefan Roßkopf, but I am sure I can say this on their behalf.) As one can see in your account, you are a long-time club member, which is favourable in terms of knowledge of ipernity's chequered history.

For your first orientation I would like to give you the following answers to your questions:

1) Ipernity is an association under French law of 1 July 1901 on the creation of an association, valid version as of February 15, 2021.

2) According to this law, the board of directors must include at least the President and the Treasurer (four-eyes principle). Eric, who founded the association in 2017 together with a French lawyer, can certainly answer specific questions.

3) With regard to nationality, there isn't any legal rule. However, it makes sense that the Treasurer is resident in one of the countries of the SEPA - (Single Euro Payments Area) so that he/she can make online money transfers without any problems.

4) The legal status of the Treasurer is not that of an employee, but that of an elected member of the Board of our Association. According to Our Statutes, a board member is elected for two years. This is expedient both in terms of familiarisation and formalities (registration at the relevant French Prefecture and at our French bank. In addition, the online accounts at Paypal, AWS and Crédit Agricole must be personalised and set up for 2-factor authentication.

5) With regard to the organisation of our accounting system (cash book, list of club members, quarterly statements, annual statement, budget with automated forecast), I have very thoroughly set up everything required in the past years. There are tried and tested Excel spreadsheets for all work processes. Of course, I will provide the necessary help with the handover and familiarisation. I will also be available for questions afterwards.

6a) Retirement is possible at any time. It is regulated in Article 8 of our Our Statutes statutes: "The retirement of a member of the Executive Board shall be done by sending an e-mail to the other members of the Executive Board. A member of the Executive Board may be dismissed from office by unanimous decision of the rest of the Executive Board."

6b) In the case of the Treasurer, however, this would lead to severe problems, because the monetary operations of the association would then come to a standstill, or an emergency arrangement would have to be set up in some way by the other board members. Therefore, a candidacy should really be meant seriously and also be aimed at the period of two years.

7) We board members can only be sued if we cause damage to the association through gross negligence or intentionally. However, since we pass all legally relevant decisions unanimously in regular online meetings and document them in a forgery-proof manner, the probability of such a thing happening is extremely low. We are also not personally financially liable as long as we do not enter into any uncovered obligations. This would be the case, for example, if we entered into a major contract with an IT service provider without having assured financing.

8) All Board members may appoint assistants to support them. This is useful for periods of temporary absence or sudden incapacity. So far, I have also been able to rely on such support, so that ipernity's existence would not be endangered if, for example, I were to be seriously ill or have a serious accident. We as a board see ourselves as a real team, and I assure you, it has always given me great pleasure to work together with the others on a voluntary, non-commercial basis.

I will be happy to answer any further questions.
Bernhard (Bergfex)

This would be wonderful. Thank you for your willingness. Also, good questions (that Bernhard has answered). Bernhard will have the most detailed information - but if you have any general questions about being on the board you can also ask me (I'm ima team moderator).

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Hello, Bernhard.

First of all, I wish to apologize for not expressing myself clearly enough. I said that "I'm willing to volunteer for the position of treasurer, but..." I did not say that I do volunteer for the position.

Two, thank you very much for the thorough description of what the position entails. In view of it, I must say that I should have thought more carefully before saying anything. At this point, I should also recognize that my aging and increasingly sclerotic brains will not be up to the task. The position clearly requires a young and alert person to perform properly.

I am sorry for the confusion that my post may have caused. However, your answer and job description will certainly help anyone who might consider applying for it.

Sincerely,
Nicolas

Thank you for the clarification, Nicolas. It shows us all the pitfalls of foreign language communication with the assistance of translators. But I don't hold it against you. After all, you made me explain a few things in detail.

Let's hope for the sake of our association and our website, which we all enjoy so much, that someone else will come along.

One more request: Please don't delete your comment, as others sometimes do. Because then my painstakingly written answer would disappear, which would be a great pity.

Heel ipernity zou het geweldig vinden als jij dit probleem oplost bij voorbaat dank je Nicolas !

Attention aux trolls de poutine qui pervertissent tout internet

Perhaps a team member would like to explain to me what the comment by 'Fox' has to do with finding a new Treasurer and Vice President and why it hasn't been removed

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Although the comment can be interpreted politically, it is not really offensive. That is why it was not removed. Above all, however, so that everyone can make up their own minds about who the author is and what moves this club member. We will keep an eye on him.

(Bernhard)

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Bonjour
A mon grand regret je ne peux pas vous aider...problèmes de mémoire suite à un AVC
je le regrette
Amicalement

Bonne "retraite" aux partants et merci aux bonnes volontés

Thank you John Lawrence for making me aware of this Team post
www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4737428
IMA Team
Faisant suite à votre recherche de deux volontaires pour les poste de vice – president et trésorier de Ipernity pour le prochein terme légal je me vois contraint de ne pas avancer avec ma candidature .
En effet, mon emploi du temps en tant que personne seule, les “enfants” étant partis il y a plus de 20 ans à l’étrange, seul dans la maison de famille, je me vois aujourd’hui et passé mes 80 ans, en charge de son entretien total dans un Pays, pas très bien noté de par son organisation socialle, sa stabilité politique et ses services publiques ….
En vous remerciant de votre compréhension,
J. Gafarot

OK folks, I am seriously considering to do the treasurers job. I am already in contact with Rob Stamp and Bernhard Westrup. More to follow.

I hope that you decide that it is something you would like to do

GREAT!THANKS

Personally, I'm happy to see activity starting to happen around the treasurer position.

Thanks to everyone who is even thinking about it!

Buon lavoro e grazie per il vostro grande impegno

I hope, that 2 volunteers can be found for the vacant positions. As I already stated elsewhere, unfortunately I cannot help personally because of several reasons.

But I think it's urgent to destress the situation as quick as possible. The several messages, that "Ipernity will be shut down", "this would be the immediate end of Ipernity" do not help. This panic is possibly dispersing users as it happened in the past. There has to be a plan B.

So I suggest, that the wording is limited to the intensive search for volunteers, yes, but without this fear causing thread of closing.

So I suggest the following:
1) For a LIMITED TIME PERIOD a Vice President is not needed to keep Ipernity in business. The AGM could pass such a resolution. For a limited time means, only until a new suitable person is found. But this cannot be a reason to shut down Ipernity on a certain date.
2) If no treasurer can be found now, FOR A LIMITED time period a professional paid accountant could be deligated for this work, until a new volunteer is found.

So there is absolutely no reason for the threat "Ipernity is shut down immediately, if not....until...."!!

Good luck!

Grundsätzlich kann ich deine Gedanken schon nachvollziehen. Andererseits sucht die ima bereits seit längerer Zeit nach entsprechenden Amtsnachfolgern (der Artikel von Bernhard - www.ipernity.com/blog/bergfex/4735584 - ist am 1. Oktober von ihm veröffentlicht worden, und da lief diese Suche bereits eine ganze Weile), ohne das sich da etwas tat. Mal von "mir fehlt die Zeit", "ich bin nicht qualifiziert genug" und "vielen Dank für die geleistete Arbeit" unter den entsprechenden Artikeln abgesehen.

Insofern ist dein "für eine begrenzte Zeit" halt auch ein wenig schwierig zu definieren. Wie lange soll denn diese begrenzte Zeit andauern? Und gratis arbeiten solche externen Leute dann auch nicht, das ist dann irgendwann auch eine Frage des Geldes, wie lange man diese von den Mitgliedsbeiträgen überhaupt finanzieren kann. Insbesondere eben dann, wenn sich zum Zeitpunkt der "Übergangslösung" nicht bereits andeutete, dass es tatsächlich nur für eine sehr begrenzte Dauer eine Übergangslösung ist.
Die Gefahr bei solchen "Übergangslösungen" ist nämlich auch, dass sie schnell zu einem Dauerzustand werden, an dem sich die Leute sehr schnell gewöhnen werden, wenn es da jemand externes gibt. Davon ab gibt es auch gesetzliche Vorgaben, von denen man nicht wirklich frei abweichen kann, was den Zeitraum ohne eine Neubesetzung des Amtes angeht.

Und es sind die Vereinsmitglieder, die über eine Auflösung des Vereins abstimmen würden. Oder darüber, jemand externes für die Kassenprüfung zu beauftragen (denn bisher sieht unsere Satzung meines Wissens nicht vor, dass für Vereinsämter eine Bezahlung erfolgt).

Ich sehe hier auch keine Panikmache oder Panik, sondern nur den Hinweis darauf, dass wir uns an gesetzliche Regeln halten müssen. Und diese gesetzlichen Regeln sehen eben vor, dass es einen Kassenwart in einem Verein geben muss, damit er fortgeführt werden kann.
Und da bin ich entspannt.

I agree.......

Ik ben het oneens met de suggestie dat er van paniek sprake is. Ik denk dat er al geruime tijd duidelijk is dat er twee nieuwe bestuursleden gevonden moeten worden. Het is dus gewoon een feit dat er nog maar een paar weken over zijn om een oplossing te vinden.

Het is mij te makkelijk om dan maar voor te stellen een betaalde 'penningmeester' aan te stellen. Ook niet voor een beperkte (wat en hoe lang is beperkt) tijd. Het idee dat een vice-president (tijdelijk) niet nodig zou, doet geen recht aan het VELE werk dat hij doet om Ipernity in leven te houden.

Er klinkt mij teveel door dat de zittende bestuursleden maar een 'tijdje' door moeten gaan tot er wel een oplossing is. Als die nu niet wordt gevonden, zie ik niet dat die later wel wordt gevonden.

Translation DeepL:
I do not agree with the suggestion that there is panic. I think it has been clear for some time that two new board members have to be found. So it is simply a fact that there are only a few weeks left to find a solution.

It is too easy for me to propose the appointment of a paid 'treasurer'. Not even for a limited (what and how long is limited) time. The idea that a vice-president would not be needed (temporarily) does not do justice to the LOTS of work he does to keep Ipernity alive.

It sounds too much to me that the incumbent board members should just continue for a 'while' until a solution is found. If it is not found now, I do not see it being found later.

Dear Jaap,

first of all, I did not "suggest" the plan B. Plan B is to avoid a shut down of Ipernity, to avoid the worst case. What do you suggest? Do you prefer a shutdown and many users on the run before, if nobody can be found until this date, 25.02. or 27.03. whatever? I really cannot follow your thoughts in this case.

You wrote:
"It is too easy for me to propose the appointment of a paid 'treasurer'. Not even for a limited (what and how long is limited) time. The idea that a vice-president would not be needed (temporarily) does not do justice to the LOTS of work he does to keep Ipernity alive."

First of all, a paid treasurer would not cost so much, because it's a very limited work. And again. What do you suggest, if no volunteer can be found, what do you suggest for this worst case? We have to be prepared!

And of course the Vice President is important and the work of the current and then former Vice President is a very much worthful and we must be very thankful for it. This has nothing to do with my comment. But what plan B do you have? We need one for sure!

Of course the best solution is to find 2 suitable persons for the job. But what, if not? Any other plan B's are most welcome! Isn't it reckless not to think about a plan B?

Regards
Berny

Ik heb geen Plan B. Ik kan alleen hopen dat Plan A (het tijdig vinden van twee nieuwe bestuursleden) gaat lukken. Als dat niet lukt, moeten we gewoon onder ogen zien dat het idee van een 'club' met meewerkende leden in het bestuur een mooi ideaal is, maar gewoon niet werkt. Alle '1200' hebben hun eigen reden om niet actief te worden.

Plan B - het op de lange baan schuiven van benoemingen - zal dan alleen maar uitstel van executie zijn. Hoezeer ik dat ook betreur.

Jaap

DeepL Translation:
I don't have a Plan B. I can only hope that Plan A (finding two new board members on time) succeeds. If it doesn't, we'll just have to face the fact that the idea of a 'club' with cooperating members on the board is a nice ideal, but it just doesn't work. All the '1200' have their own reasons for not becoming active.

Plan B - delaying appointments - will then only be a postponement of execution. No matter how much I regret that.

Jaap

With a careful reading of our Statutes and observations of what Bernhard has accomplished as Vice President alone, and remembering one of the main reasons for the ruin of ipernity under its previous owner, proposals for a suspension, albeit temporary, of the office of Vice President are ruinous, and apart from the reality that Stefan also picks up on, unacceptable and thus ultimately not debatable.
The same applies to the proposal about assigning the treasurer's duties to an external, professional, paid accountant.

Also, unacceptable are allegations about members of the ima team that are devoid of any truth – as well as insults of any kind against them.

Very constructive, little butterfly. I'm sure you will solve these issues with your contribution. And very sorry, I didn't know, that you are the man oder woman or what else, who decides, what somebody is allowed to write here or not. And lastly, obviously you didn't understand one word of my comment.

A pity, your deep and obvious dislike blinds you to reality.
It still offers no basis for constructive discussions about possibilities
and conceivable solutions.

Instead of insulting other club members and criticize the board's supposed inability to find solutions through long postings by proposing a "Plan B" (you are obviously sure that this plan B has not even been considered by the board in any way?), of which you then claim just four hours later that you had not proposed this Plan B, you could also advance club life by suggesting how we can find a new vice-president?

I am convinced that you can and would like to present a workable solution to this problem to the other members of the association and also to the incumbent board.

+1
The insults show nothing but intolerance, contrary to the associative spirit.
But tempers flare as the deadline approaches and this is normal, as mentioned above by the "team" in its soothing message (the "solution" could emerge in the final days...).

Sorry, Eric, some people don't need exceptional situations to misbehave like that.
And we don't even have an exceptional situation here.
However, not only for this reason, the permanent absence of sincere respect
and sincere gratitude are, in my opinion, not justifiable and also not excusable.

Hi all,

We understand your concerns! We as the board share them. Nevertheless, we ask you not to get panic. This would not be fruitful. No one needs to apologise either. It is quite normal that many do not have the skills, health or time to stand for election. But even if only a third of our club members were eligible, that would be more than 300. There are many associations that are not a tenth as big, and yet manage to fill their board mandates.

In this respect, we are optimistic about also mastering this challenge. Please give all those who are thinking about coming forward the necessary peace and time. We all know that most of the momentum is not in the many months before a deadline, but in the last few days before it. Also give us the time to dialogue with those who have already contacted us.

After all, it is not a matter of finding an accountant, but of appointing two board mandates - one of which is required by law, and the other of which is not less important. Interim solutions would be tolerable for a limited period of time with a dedicated regular solution afterwards. We would support any viable idea with such a prospect. If they only serve to postpone, they are not beneficial. Because then an additional Extraordinary General Assembly would have to be convened. We would like to avoid this effort for us and for you.

And now for something completely different....

All these guys who tell us, for legitimate reasons, not to be eligible for a job as a board member - can you spare an hour a week or a month? To transfer incoming payments into an excel sheet? To publish a newsletter every two weeks? To maintain ip's facebook or youtube account? To assist our "technicians"? Just to relieve and help the board members, to make the job looking less extensive?

+1. I am on it.

I kindly ask the board of the ima team for a detailed opinion if and how the tasks listed by Markus (as examples?) are transferable to members outside the board.

Particularly, I ask for clarification for those areas which are part of the Vice President's task (creation and publication of the regularly published Club News, etc.) on the one hand and part of the Treasurer's task (transfer of incoming payments of membership fees into an Excel spreadsheet) on the other hand.

Ja? Und das folgende ist jetzt nur meine persönliche, eigene Einschätzung: Natürlich können die verschiedenen Aufgaben auch durch Personen erledigt werden, die nicht Teil des Vorstandes sind? Speziell die von Markus angesprochenen Social Media Kanäle werden ja schon jetzt teilweise durch Personen betreut, die kein Teil des Vorstandes sind. Twitter zum Beispiel hätte durch jeden betreut werden können, dafür muss man kein Mitglied im Vereinsvorstand sein (gut, wird nun durch mich betreut, hätte ich aber auch angeboten zu machen wenn ich nicht Teil des ima-Teams gewesen wäre. Dabei fällt mir auf - da könnte ich auch mal wieder was tweeten. Nun ja, heute Abend vielleicht.).

Ich weiß gar nicht, wer aktuell die anderen sozialen Medien für ipernity betreut (weil ich sie persönlich nicht verfolge bzw. nutze), aber für diese Themen gibt es die Gruppe www.ipernity.com/group/advertising

Oder man schlägt für www.ipernity.com/group/2628132 Fotos vor bzw. bietet an, dort zu moderieren? Oder oder oder.

Das schreiben der Clubnews könnte sicherlich auch jemand übernehmen, der ansonsten nur mit liest, was gerade durch den Vorstand bearbeitet wird, denke ich.

Es gibt sicher in jedem Fall genügend Dinge zu tun, für die man keine speziellen Fähigkeiten, sondern lediglich etwas Interesse und Zeit benötigt. Und vieles von dem, was sich vorgenommen wird, wird bisher nur deswegen nicht getan, weil einem selbst dafür die Zeit fehlt. Aber viele Dinge müssen nicht wirklich ausschließlich vom Vereinsvorstand getan werden (und werden es ja auch jetzt schon nicht).

Thanks for this first insight, Stefan.
I'll wait for the comment from the team and hope that detailed information will encourage one or the other to participate.

What could also help us is publicity! And really EVERY one of you can help with that. To give just one example, which I have noticed several times now: The user SV1XV, for example, regularly posts photos of ipernity on his Twitter account - twitter.com/SV1XV.
And not only his own, but also those of other ipernity members that he likes. If you then add me or the @ipernity Twitter account, it's perfect and draws a little attention to us every now and then. And surely all of you have an account on some social media site where you could do something similar?

K.Urs Gruetter--wil het penningmeesterschap opnemen ---dus nog alleen een vice-voorzitter.!

Please be patient, Fred.
K. Urs "is seriously considering to do the treasurers job", and is in contact with Bernhard and Rob.
That he will actually take over the treasurer's job isn't officially confirmed yet.

Je ne vais pas pouvoir aider : les chiffres et moi, nous ne sommes pas du tout en phase et de plus je fais partie de 3 autres associations dons je suis juste membre, mais çà prend un peu de temps (chorale, club photo et club des aînés).