The first results for the survey [EN] [FR]

Sounds promising, but a few questions spring to mind.

First, you say over 900 people responded favourably, but can you quantify that in any way in terms of what they have said in response to specific questions, percentages of votes cast etc. at this stage?

Second, you've re-posted a link to the survey document so does that mean people who have not yet completed it can still do so and if they can what is the actual final cut off point for people to respond?

Many thanks! :)

Also, many people are experiencing problems today with how the site displays or does not display images. Is this just a glitch or a sign that behind the scenes Team Ipernity are reducing the service in some way?

www.ipernity.com/doc/autofantasia/44284000

Ticket #37952

i HAVE POSTED A LINK TO THIS ON A PHOTO OF A BOAT IN THE TWO GROUPS ON Flickr. I HOPE THE LINK IS UASABLE.

As other mention half of my albums are just empty boxes today-
John.

yes, I experienced many problems in displaying images from yesterday and they are present also today ...

Sounds hopeful !!

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900 responses to the survey is a drop in the ocean considering the thousands of members you say IP has.
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It appears from comments in several blogs members have complained they never received the survey. The survey was posted on the news page far to late and only for a few days. Not long enough time to give all members access to the survey.
Some Members did missed the survey because they were not on the internet for several reasons Example people away on holidays in area with no internet access. Ip you have made a total disaster when it came to contact All members by email (even if you had to do it in small batches to prevent Spam Alerts)
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The link above docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6seHpaFHBCwoypXg6SyzywEm8KgDoxDlp6ZNKvqMh2XK13w/viewform
is useless because when you click on supply your web ID the message says access in denied.
www.ipernity.com/you
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So it is to late for this survey to continue to be of any value unless you extend the time frame for members to access this survey and fix the Access Denied problem.

Tess, I just managed to access that survey (again) without any issues and it accepted my web ID okay. :)

More worrying for me was the fact that I was able to complete the entire survey and submit it even though I'd already done this a few days ago, which seems odd. Who ever pulls together the stats for this survey is therefore going o need to check carefully for duplications.

I have tried it again and got as far as inputting my email address Then when I tried to access my IP identity still getting the message Access Denied. Page not found.
file:///C:/Users/Sal/Favorites/Downloads/ipernity_%20Page%20not%20found.html
So again is this some sort of glitch that allows some to access and not others. Maybe a little like the Buddy Icon going missing on some but not all. Very strange things going on on IP>
And yes you are so right for those who can access the suvey and have already fill it in duplication will be a problem.

I've just tried the link to the IMA survey in the main IP article/blog above.
It worked for me, so the IMA survey is open for further answers.

Works for me too !!

And me.

and the beat goes on.

I'm in favor of LET'S WAIT AND SEE.

Well nothing like be positive so thank you for all those who cared and responded to the survey and thank you also for the administrators working on our behalf to save what we all (or most) of us care about.

Absolutely agree.

+ 1

Tout à fait d'accord moi aussi et un GRAND MERCI pour votre travail positif et il y aura toujours des gens pour critiquer car le monde est ainsi fait !

Thank you for this latest piece of information.
I will try to post the link in the two groups of Ipernity members living again on Flickr.I hope it will work.
John.

"So we actually are short of that aren't we ?"

I suppose we will know when the money is collected. It seems premature to declare it's over just yet.

I am willing to gamble that the platform will survive with my money and the money of lots of people like me. You can be sure, it is not money that I depend on for my next meal. I am not suggesting anyone starve to contribute -- as with all gambling, you put up only what you can afford to lose. Because I am lucky to be able to put up my share, and maybe slightly more, if it comes to that, and because the site means so much to me, I'm there.

Ditto !!

More info.?? ipernityma.wixsite.com/ipernityma comes up as a blank pg. Even checking the source code, there is nothing there.

I'm glad you guys find something useful in a survey which, technically, isn't even statistically significant --- a poll pool of 100,000 would've needed thousands of responses.

I hope the IMA folks have a better plan than just throwing money at the situation!

Links are working for me ... both to the IMA site and the survey.

Totally agree Fizzie.

The website address is:

ipernityma.wixsite.com/ipernityma

Doesn't work.... Loads to a blank page. Looked at the source code & the "body" elements are empty. So, the tags are there, but there's no text or anything else.

to me the link is working...

The link works for me.
Thanks for everything you and others are doing for saving IP. :-))

Not blank here. I could send you a screen shot.

Just took a look at your stream Pages , 4 5, 6, on your poststream are showing blank images. Have not the time to check further. The images appear when you click on the blanks.

Tess,
My blanks start on pg 2 .. are haphazard throughout the photostream.
My icon shows at times and not others. Type on Guestbook is all askew.

Ther are bugs in here.

Peggy
( armed with a fly swatter ! )

Hi Peggy
LOL Hope your bug swatter is enormous because it will need to be. What's going on nobody knows. Did not know about the Guestbook checked mine but have to say no strange goings on there But the way things are going that might happen down the road.

I have blank images too. Maybe too much people online downloading or uploading at the same time here...

The Glitch has been explained in a new message from the Team, we should not be concerned as no data will be lost, Amazon tech folk are working on the problem.

Beautifully put. It's that simple. The rest is talk.

merci à toute l'équipe pour ces bonnes nouvelles
bonne chance à nous tous

+1

I prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That is all I can do without knowing more details about the situation.

I just had a chance to access the ipernity Members Association page, and it looks good. It does increase my hope that maybe we can keep ipernity up and running. I will take a wait-and-see attitude. ;-)

Think so too.
Wait and see.

UN GRAND MERCI pour les bonnes nouvelles et bonne continuité !!!!

When I received the e-mail about the servey today it was the first time I've heard the news something is wrong. How can the team don't realize that probable 1% or less is actually reading blogs, forums etc is beyond me. Unless this e-mail was finally sent to every user I bet most of the Ipernity users still have no idea the site is on the verge of shutdown.

quelle bonheur cette esperance ..... l' amitié qui s' est lié entre les membres est trop forte pour une autre issue !! grand merci à ceux qui se sont investis dans ce nouveau projet !!

I read there are 900 replies (to be compared to the 3000 paying members here).

OTOH the IP team initially said they'd need another 3000 paying members to reach equilibrium.

Even it this figure of +3000 may have been exagerated, the fact that most of the 900 replies will have accepted to pay more (say, the double) means we have found the equivalent of 500 new members.

In other words : we are far from halfway through.

But we are probably close to being able to maintain the site as is, a minima, till the end of this year.

Too many unknowns, irregular information to the contributing members and to all other regular users.
It is not a good show, rather amateurish, I think.
All this, it seems, is not compatible with a planned solid budget ... , sorry.
My compliments.
Jose

Totally agree Jose

I also received an email today, and just filled out the survey. I have days (sometimes months) when I'm not on this site and days when I binge-upload. I have been on this site since 2013, when Flickr changed its format and loved how Ipernity looked like "old Flickr". I have paid until Oct. 2018, and I'm very upset that I now have to copy/paste the "text" that I have typed (or moved over from Flickr after typing) for each of my photographs of museum objects (what I primarily use my account for...a way to organized photographs I've taken in museums for study and teaching purposes because I am in grad. school). This was years of work...and now I'm freaking out.

Is there a way to keep this textual information or does the "download" only save the photographs? There's no data in the image itself. I'm not the most tech savvy person out there.

The short answer is no, no solution unless you are very tech savvy, can use a piece of software that is a script, and requires some coding skills. This was my first question back in early December. Audrey said a solution would be worked on. But the search appears to have ended when a developer associate of theirs came up with this script. I am sorry. Boy, am I sorry.

If you have any developer friends, coworkers or associates, perhaps they will help.

"Is there a way to keep this textual information or does the "download" only save the photographs? There's no data in the image itself. I'm not the most tech savvy person out there."

The short answer is "no"....

I'll tell you what I recommend to my clients..... If the data you post with certain photos is important, create a spreadsheet file with the name of your subject --- in your case the artwork piece --- and add the data into the second column. I do this with many of the pieces I post as well --- primarily architectural themed shots... My spreadsheet has 3 columns : building name, address, and pertinent info. Come to think of it, I have a similar sheet for my artwork pieces. I realized it's a pain to go through it all now and deal with it, but it may not be as daunting as you think --- I see/saw, in a cursory glance, that many of the art pieces you photographed have multiple shots. So if you do a spreadsheet, you can have all info. for that piece in one spot rather than having to input it for each file individually. Trust me, I know it's a chore --- I went through my photo collection here which spanned over 6,000 images at the time. It seemed daunting, but once I got the sheets set up and a method going, it actually didn't take me all that long. Just an idea for you.... Going forward, you can also look into programs that allow you to edit the EXIF data on photos to add whatever info. you want. Or, as some of my clients do, add the info. to photos via Photoshop.... Some even save two versions of their photos; one at high res. for upload or prints, etc., and one lower res. with pertinent text included. I personally find the spreadsheet/table documents the better way to go as they're less work and more easily searchable. Plus, photo files often get corrupted in the process of being moved around or uploaded, etc., with significant data losses. Having the pertinent info. in a separate file & type is a better way to backup the text data, IME.

Probably not what you want to hear at this time with the site in the condition that it's in, but there you have it.... Hope it's helpful in some way.

I refuse to be negative.. I WILL wait and see.

Sorry... but not making a funeral where.. AT THE MOMENT.. there isnt one.

Life is hard enough as it is.

THANKYOU TEAM.. and THANKYOU IMA...

And.. all links work for me.. and all my pics are as they should be where they should be.. so hoping that whatever affected others was just a hiccup.

The Glitch has been explained Pam in a new article today from the Team.

Aber was ist los mit der Darstellung auf dem Bildschirm?
Seit gestern ist einiges durcheinander - nicht nur bei mir, sondern auc bei anderen IP-Mitgliedern, mit denen ich in Kontakt bin.
Ist das der Anfang vom (technischen) Ende?

The creeping death ???

The IP Team are aware of the display issues, hopefully they will be resolved in the near future.
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There are things going on "behind the scenes" regarding other matters.

Thanks for letting us know.

Creamy nougat center ahead?

You can say that again.

How to save Ipernity - my own guide:

Good things to do -
Accept the position as it is, even though it is not welcome.
Be appreciative of what members are doing to save Ipernity.
Try to fill in the questionnaire if you have not already done so.
Be patient and do not expect a running commentary on the negotiations.
Think positively and even expect that Ipernity will continue.

Things to avoid -
Complaining about problems of the past.
Criticising shortcomings in the outreach now - people are doing the best they can.
Criticising the present owners of Ipernity, no matter what they have or have not done in the past.
Attacking Ipernity for incidental technical problems.
Leaving and slamming the door - everyone will be harmed.

This is just my considered approach - it might appeal to others ....

How very well said, John.

Your support is appreciated !

Now, I must get back to my real world job.
I need more than 24 hours in a day and an extra couple of days in the week at the moment.

Fully agree, John!

Well said John

My link posted in the two Groups on Flickr, is working and being used.

100 % agree John !!!

Fully agree John !

well said!

YES !!

Perfectly put !

Well said John.
I am always the optimist......never give up hope.

I also agree, thanks!

You said "Try to fill in the questionnaire if you have not already done so." The Problem is most members never got the information. Only those who blog got the info Those who depend on email to be informed were not contacted. This is not a negative comment but a positive comment and a statement of fact. To save IP All Members should have been contacted I know now that IP could not send bulk emails (to prevent a possible Spam problem ) but they replied to me that they would do it in small batches to prevent the Spam problem. I do not think that this has actually happened. So far the response has been far below the expected because of the lack of contact and information.

Ich fürchte die wenigsten haben etwas von der Umfrage mitbekommen, da leider niemand angeschrieben wurde.
Auch ich wurde eher zufällig aufmerksam auf das Drama hier :-(

Eigentlich gefällt mir ganz gut, was ich hier in den ersten Tagen sehe. Wenn ich aber lese, dass diese Website kurz vor dem Aus steht, ist das wenig motivierend.
Wo ist eigentlich das Problem? Man braucht 50.000 Euro für die nächsten zehn Monate. Das macht 60.000 für ein Jahr. Geteilt durch 3000 Club-User sind das 20 Euro pro Kopf. Auf der Tarif-Seite lese ich von 24,99 € pro Jahr. Da bleibt doch sogar noch Geld übrig, mit dem man Werbung machen könnte.
Wär das nicht sinnvoller, als Leute abzuschrecken?

Email invitation to what. ???????

News on this also here =)
www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186298/comment/49944914#comment49944914

Looking very promising.

VERY promising indeed.

Cake, definitely. Sponge would be heaven.

I am definitely remaining hopeful and positive. That said, has anyone thought about (if ipernity is not saved) asking for the ipernity team to open source the code for the site? Or allowing us to buy it and then us open sourcing it?

I also wondered - probably way too late - if anyone approached a place like shutterfly. They currently offer storage and really un-user friendly ways of sharing photos with family. Don't even know if they have comments. But I would think that a place that has product to sell - photo product - might do well to incorporate a good setup that keeps people engaged and close to their offerings. This would of course be a second choise to the way it is now, but just wanted to put it out there.

"That said, has anyone thought about (if ipernity is not saved) asking for the ipernity team to open source the code for the site?"

Of course. Several times, and did that already several years before all these things happening and as the team mentonied sometimes "we are just 5 guys so developement needs some time" that this might be a possible solution to get more power into developening.

I added several times I would love it to supply some snipplets of code for small functions and improvements which I would love to see and asked because of that if they would like to change ipernity into collaborative project, but haven´t got any response about that - well - of course.
F.e. switching to open streetmap instead of google for geotagging your photos or something like that - which would be - relatively - easy to implement and also it would be cool to support open projects instead of the big google - additionally the maps are commonly more accurate (at least in my area).
But as the team at least responded...

Well at the top it says we will be informed at the latest Feb 12 which is tomorrow.

We wait with bated breath and everything crossed.

Cake yet?

Thank you, Fizgig, and the others who have offered suggestions for trying to save the text-box information. I have started a spreadsheet and hopefully will not run out of time (fingers-crossed) if anything happens.

Thanks, we wait, we hope, we wait, we hope.

Bon hé bien j'arrive toujours trop tard pour répondre ! Je tiens à dire ici que je suis FAVORABLE à la continuation d'Ipernity et à une participation financière de tous les exposants sur ce site... Cordialement.

The link directly to the Survey is still possible from the original article

An association proposes to save ipernity ... [EN] [FR] jUST USE THE Word survey, it is Blue and active.

I have just been there and tested it.

John.

My Screen shot Photo has also been posted on Flickr in the two Ipernity survivers Groups.

John.

Hello friends, when can be expected a decision, whether IP or not continue to exist?

Bis Samstag sollen die Ergebnisse der Umfrage bekanntgegeben werden.

Dank Gudrun,
wenn das dann so sein wird, dann hätten wir ja evtl. Perspektiven...
LG Udo

This was on the IMA .......in case anyone missed this ....

William Sutherland

William Sutherland
To all,

You will have info either Friday or Saturday (at the latest) re: Survey results.

7 hours ago. Reply

Thank you William.
What happens now?

Survey Results Discussion thread here

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186528

If "free" is the only salient for you, flickr is over there with two terabytes for free.

The real cost of flickr is tons of views with no comments, hundreds of zombie groups that people post to, for what??, and, as one return flickrer said, thousands who see the site as a big catalog to browse and steal other people's stuff. --No community, and the worst thing about the internet, in other words.

Auf so was habe ich wenig Lust!

Absolutely!

.. and meaningless fav's and those terrible graphics and pictures in comments.

Whose to say they won't be encouraged here when the IMA take over - lol! ;)

Bad news for users of Fotoblur as it has been announced this week that the site will close on March 1st, 2017.

However, this does mean that there will be a lot of people looking for a new home for their photos so perhaps this will present an opportunity for those of us who are trying to save ipernity to exploit?

Here's the full announcement as posted on Facebook:

Fotoblur To Close ...