Almost in every photographic community which I have attended before landing here there was a main or general gallery where one could see all the photos posted daily. That gave the maximum visibility to each photo posted because it could be seen by everybody.
That also means that one can browse all genres of pictures and chose the ones which he/she finds appealing or interesting and eventually write a comment, or leave a “like” or a “fav”. Depending on how far back one goes the browsing usually it takes few minutes.
It is generally considered a good habit and a form of etiquette to comment other people photos each time one posts one’s own.
Even in Flickr it was like that at the beginning. Then one day they decided to change the whole thing and the main gallery disappeared… When the change was made I was absent from the site so I discovered it only much later. I asked for an explanation in the forum – there is no possibility to contact the staff there – and I have been told by senior members that the reason was that the amount of posted photos was too big to have the all of them in one single gallery. They said few millions each day. That digit is not proved, and actually someone checked the source of information and found out it was much smaller. Anyway, millions or thousands that is Flickr… Ipernity surely doesn’t have 1/10 of that traffic. Actually judging from the “explore gallery and many other group galleries, the pace is very slow. So why we can’t have one single gallery with all the photos?
If there is not a main gallery where all the posted photos go automatically that means that nobody will see your photo. I discovered that on Flickr because I wondered why nobody was commenting my photos… (:-) So if you want that your photos can be seen by other people and perhaps commented or voted you are compelled to join a group and post it again there (that is two operations instead of one). But this reduces drastically the visibility of your photo because one group may have let’s say from 50 to 400 members (and usually not all the members are active) versus the thousands which are registered in the site. Furthermore, due to the low activity and the rules to post the photo in the group, it’s much more difficult to find photos which you like. That is: you have less choice. (I hope everything I said is clear enough).
Then the solution is to join several groups... The more groups you post your photos in, the more visibility you get. Also in this way you have more chances to find the photos you like. But alas! This means that the fatigue and the time needed multiplies for the number of joined groups! Are you beginning to see the problem?
At the beginning I joined only about a dozen groups (accepting the invitations I received) and it took me a whole evening to browse them all. Then I continued joining new groups (how many are there no one knows!) along the way and now I found out it’s impossible for me to browse them all. I’m forced to be a sit-backer (for the definition of a sit-backer please see my previous article) and to comment only the photos of my – for the moment – few contacts. Isn’t this system perverse?
Now, is anyone here who is able to explain the usefulness of the groups? Which advantage do the give us? And why they banned the main gallery?
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that ipernity has for viewing .... then I have tried in my own little way to try to provide somewhere
where images may be seen ... and in a range of subjects, and actually far from "collecting"
more comments or a link to the group ... I have not found this to be the case actually ... because
of the 4U group criteria ... that an award (or link) is always optional and that personal comments are welcomed by everyone ... that is slowly ... slowly happening more and more ... I do not
see it as tribal ... but respect your point of view .... but at least over a period of time ... people
do get to know about others ... through the group ... becoming contacts if they want to ...
and it has and does cut down a little bit of time ... no quick answer ... there never is one ...
only patience that stands the test of time as to whether it works or not ... so far ... I am happy
that being small ... growing slowly ... and being in no rush ... is the way forward ... you could
say ... I have chosen carefully (I hope) my contacts ... those that interact and will appreciate
others also ... so far ... so good .... ;-)
Forum ... having typed it quickly ... it is the equivalent to the flickr forum and is the
The ipernity Team blog ... there you will find ;-) all the uproar of twelve months ago
of the groups ... awards ... and all the unpleasantness that followed ;-)
PS: I think many groups here as on flickr ... post for extra awards ... with the chance
of a fave ... a comment also if they are lucky ... and this mentality has come here also ...
a thin line between this ... and what I have hoped to achieve myself with my groups
for like minded people ... that is ...to view and enjoy and comment on others that they
might not have seen ... and of a good quality ... !
thanks for your reply also ... ;-)
Groups: You may like it or not. If not - simply ignore them. There are many other ways how to find your comfort zone and even more photos "you can eat". But if you want to participate in some groups and follow whats new there, maybe you find this section of your "news" useful:
www.ipernity.com/group/0/activity
And when talking about "all new photos in one page"... I have not tried it yet, just stumble across RSS feeds provided by ipernity:
www.ipernity.com/help/feed
It shall give you various "feeds" which can be opened in RSS reader (application, online service in browser or browser extension).
I’ve used “collecting” to mean that you gathered there all the photos you liked, I don’t see anything wrong in that. Of course you are giving to the other the possibility to discover other deserving images.
“ more comments or a link to the group ... I have not found this to be the case actually ... because of the 4U group criteria .. . I do not see it as tribal ..”
I guess there is something I’m not aware of here. I actually don’t know what these 4U criteria are, and also I wonder if they all belong to you?
In saying that they satisfy a human need to belong to a tribe (which is something we all share because it’s our heritage – have you ever read any of Desmond Morris books?) I was stating a general concept. We do belong to tribes, even if we like to call them with different names, and in this way it’s easier for us to have stable relationships. But if we stick to our tribe and ignore the vast universe we may be in contact with then we are narrowing our life and experience, are we not?
“what I have hoped to achieve myself with my groups for like minded people ... that is ...to view and enjoy and comment on others that they might not have seen ... and of a good quality ... !”
Yes, this is a good purpose.
Have a nice day,
D.
That is: take it or leave it. OK, I know that. We don't want to change, do we? If the groups are there, of course there must be a valid reasons for them which I ignore. I wrote this article just to see if there was someone aware of those reasons and willing to explain them to me.
Thank you for the links. They can be useful in case I want to navigate into that vast ocean... I'm a prudent sailor and I usually start sailing in safe and friendly waters (:-).
There is so much more I want to say on the subject, but I have time constraints at the moment. I will be back to further comment :)
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